Here is an interesting discussion topic; Water Flouridation– do you think we should keep doing it?

Water fluoridation has been a subject of some controversy for as long as most of us can remember.

Highly-respected agencies and scientific data suggests that for relatively small per-person costs, water fuoridation has helped reduce cavities in children– particularly those that may not otherwise have good access to dental health services and fluoride treatments. On the other side of the argument, there are people who question the data in light of the fact that many developed countries do not fluoridate water, and have experienced improvements in dental health similar to the USA since 1970. And there are people who have sensitivities to fluoride, who have to drink bottled water to avoid stomach aches or other problems associated with fluoride in the water.

The City of Issaquah still does not fluoridate its water. Every time the officials move to do it, the public largely objects and shoots the idea down. They are once again asking for input right now. Click here to see their meeting announcement

We were chatting about this in the Corman household tonight as we pondered ways Renton could consider saving money. I have no strong opinion on this myself, although one family member drinks bottled water to avoid too much fluoride because of sensitivities to it. I suspect it would save $100,000 to $200,000 a year in Renton if we stopped fluoridating our water, but I have never asked our staff for an estimate. If we stopped fluoridating, the savings would not help balance our general fund (it would not pay for police or fire) since the utility fund is separate; but any savings could off-set customer water rates.

Again, I am not advocating one way or the other, but I would be interested to hear your views on the topic.

Here is a pretty good article in Wikipedia, that covers a lot of aspects of this policy question.

What do you think Rentonites? Are you glad we fluoridate your water, or do you wish we would stop?

Good Times floating down the Cedar River; but use care and good sense

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Here is a picture of the rest of my party, right before our recent adventure down the river. We managed to pop the raft on the right on a rock, and then a mile further downstream capsize the inflatable kayak in a tight river bend after three of us had crammed into it; We laughed so hard it made our ribs hurt, but that was thanks to some preparation.

A few days ago I led some of my family and a visiting friend on a float trip down our beautiful Cedar River. I’ve been doing this trip for twenty-five years, and it’s always a fun adventure. And it’s never quite the same from one trip to the other.

My favorite place to put into the water is Jones Road, just east of our city and the new 152nd Ave SE bridge that connects Maple Valley Highway to Renton Highlands. (There is great parking and a great launching beach right along Jones road, about a quarter-mile east of the bridge.)

The trip then takes you past Ron Regis Park, the golf course, under Maple Valley Highway, and finally along to a couple of great parks for exiting the river– one at the rail trestle, and another at Carco Theater. The total float time is between two and three hours, depending on the level of the river. When the river is low, as it is now, you’ll hit more rocks and slow sections, and it will take longer.

But there are many things to be wary of on a trip like this, and I don’t recommend that kids do it by themselves. While hopping on floating toys in twelve inches of water seems perfectly safe at the start, there are obstacles and hazards during the entire four-mile voyage, and the water gets pretty deep in some places. Furthermore, even shallow water can drown you quickly if it is moving fast and rams you into a log-jam, so you need to recognize these jams as the life-threatening hazard they are, and either competently steer clear or simply get out of the water and walk around them.

Furthermore, like nearly everyone else on the river, I’ve always used these hardware store type inflatables, never shelling out the $1000 needed for a real whitewater raft. About one out of every three or four trips we’ll damage a raft so badly that it is no longer usable without repair, so I have learned to always have more floating capacity than we have people. Have a way that people can double-up if one of the boats springs a leak.

Everyone that gets on the river simply must be able to swim. Anyone who can’t is going to be at far more risk, and may be terrified in some sections of the trip (which will put them at further risk).

In addition, we often use life jackets, which help reduce risk of drowning in flat calm sections of water, but can carry snagging risks when it comes to log jams. The trick here is to recognize the risks of life jackets, loose clothing, necklaces, etc when it comes to log jams, and to steer clear of the logs!

When I did this float trip in 1985, there were virtually no log hazards along the way. Now there are such hazards around every bend. This is primarily because of environmental and fisheries interests; the logs provide natural fish egg laying and resting zones. Hence, logs have been purposefully installed in many cases.

Another reason for the hazards is the 2001 earthquake and landslide, which swept many trees across the river near Ron Regis Park. In some cases these logs are simply impassable on the river, and boaters must disembark and carry the boat around the obstruction.

And do not tie the rafts together. This is never a good idea, and will only make it easy for them to become entangled or flip over on the fast moving sections of the river.

One last precaution for kids is that certain areas along the banks attract a lot of drinking and partying on the warm summer days. While I’ve never been bothered by the friendly, if inebriated, greetings from people on shore, I would not necessarily want my middle school kids floating past all these parties unescorted.

While this is an article mostly about precautions, I have to say I’ve had some great times floating on our own Cedar River, and while I’ve heard of people having close calls, I’ve never seen any bad injuries first hand.

Use good sense if you try it, and recognize that you are doing it entirely at your own risk. You alone are responsible for your own safety, and the safety of your children.

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This picture is straight from a fisheries website, and shows the work done to create fish habitat using logs.

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This is another picture from fisheries, showing a log that has been chained to the shore to keep it from floating away in high water.


This picture shows one of many logs spanning the river at the site of the 2001 landslide near Ron Regis Park. (Photo owned and hosted in this article here in the Renton Reporter)

Nishiwaki Reception and Party tonight

We enjoyed great food, gifts, and formal greetings tonight at the lovely Dochnahl residence, as we celebrated the Nishiwaki Delegation’s visit to Renton. We also talked about past visits, plans for the rest of the visit, and simply caught up with old friends.

Mayor Kishi from Nishiwaki delivered a warm and gracious speech in English, which he explained he had prepared on the plane ride over here. Denis Law and I spoke briefly on behalf of the city; the rest of the party was informal and just friends having fun.

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Rentonites and our Nikiwashi guests share a saki toast at tonight’s reception
Click here to see the pictures

Our Nishiwaki delgates arrive!

Our sister-city delegation has arrived. Here are a few pictures from the afternoon’s activities at Liberty Park, the Library, Renton Historical Museum, and Uptown Glassworks.

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The Nishiwaki delegation poses with us in front of a tree that was given to Renton by Nishiwaki 30 years ago. The tree was one foot tall at the time!

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We’re seeing many good friends from Japan today! Nishiwaki delegates arriving in Renton today!


Our final farewell ceremony 16 months in Nishiwaki. It was hard to say goodbye.

Nishiwaki’s delegation is back in Renton, and they will be here for three days. Today we’re visiting Liberty Park and the many surrounding sites. If you are downtown perhaps we’ll bump into you! If so, please say welcome to our many wonderful sister-city guests!

I took many pictures last year when we visited them. Please click here to see those photos and entries. Be sure you keep scrolling down to find the pictures from our tours.

(Please note that delegates always pay their own travel costs)

Should we dump politicians from the Renton River Days Parade?

The Renton Reporter just ran this interesting opinion piece suggesting that it was time to dump politicians from the Renton River Days Parade.

I just want to say that I’m not at all offended by this idea, and can see that it might make sense.

As guest-columnist Bill Virgin points out, politicians are in the parade in two capacities; (1) current city officials riding near the start of the parade, (2) candidates running for local and state offices who have designed their own floats, cars etc and are often handing out literature. Mr. Virgin suggests we consider both of these be reduced or eliminated, to tighten up the parade and make it more kid friendly.

I actually tend to agree, at least to an extent. While I would never turn down a request by parade organizers to participate in an official capacity, I would not make a stink if I was told I was not wanted in the parade. I trust the many wonderful volunteers working on Renton River Days to make good choices about such things, and I’m in no position to second-guess them. There are countless people who work much harder than I do to bring the River Days Parade to life.

One suggestion I have proposed to other council members in the past is that the Mayor and Council could consider all boarding the same vehicle (truck, fire-engine, trailer, whatever), and compress eight cars down to one. Usually, I bring this idea up too late, when being formally asked to participate… and at this point the cars are already scheduled for any given year, so we go with the plan. Perhaps I should push this idea a little more, and a little earlier.

With regard to candidates, I would be okay with the parade organizers making a blanket request for candidates to refrain from participating. I thing most candidates would be okay with this, if they were convinced that everyone else would do it too.

As a frequent candidate for office I can tell you that there is usually pressure to create a parade entry for your campaign, particularly if you feel your competition may be doing it. No one wants to look out-organized by their competition, or fear that citizens will think they did not care enough about their own campaign to enter the parade.

On the other hand, I know that the parade is a celebration, largely centered around children, and there is a lot of sense in handling the politicking elsewhere. Hence, I have run highly-contested races in Renton three times, and only once did I have a parade entry.

Other cities around the country have asked politicians not to enter their parades, and have generally had success when they want to keep them out. No successful politician will insist on being in a parade where they are not wanted. It may be a little harder to keep out yard signs, sticker, and buttons for politicians on the other floats, but maybe that’s not too big a deal… they are not really making the parade take any longer. And again, the parade organizers could request that people voluntarily refrain from promoting candidates.

In short, as Renton’s current longest-serving local official, I will be completely happy to leave this question to parade organizers, and I would encourage my colleagues in elected office –and those running for office– to do the same. I want Renton River Days to achieve it’s full potential, however the organizer think that will happen.

What do you all think about this?