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Presidential Debate

By request, here is the “Presidential Debate” from this weekend’s Saturday Night Live.


  1. Anonymous Anonymous
    September 30, 2008    


    Thanks, Randy!

    OK, now I know the election is serious stuff and the stock market took a nose dive today… but this skit is funny stuff. No taxes on Chicago bribes. The various local appearance ideas that even included Seattle with Chippendale outfits. Dinner with Scarlet Johannson as an international negotiation tool. Funny stuff. This Thursday I have a dinner gathering where we will all watch the VP debate together and will likely have lots of serious conversation. I can’t wait to see what spoof SNL will do of that debate. Now back to CNN and the bailout.


  2. September 30, 2008    

    Not bad…

    The skewered both of them pretty well – I was pleasantly surprised about the Chicago material.

    As Elisabeth said, back to serious stuff like bunnies with pancakes on their heads:

  3. September 30, 2008    

    *lol* I would totally go to the modified Chip n’ Dale tear-away tuxedo show in Seattle.

  4. Anonymous Anonymous
    September 30, 2008    

    Media & Ideology

    My daughter forwarded this article to me last night and it’s interesting reading.

    I don’t know how extensive the studies were for statistical soundness, but the concept of the article is interesting to ponder. Do you ever wonder, when reading a heated, name-calling exchange on the blog if either party is really reading or paying attention to the information the other person is sharing? Or have both parties so dug their heels in that they can’t consider validity to the other’s viewpoint or data?

    Interesting article.


    • September 30, 2008    

      Re: Media & Ideology

      Good find!

      If we’re all honest with ourselves, it really is true.

      When you get down to it, on a historical political level, Obama and McCain are side by side.

      The way to work around the “I pick my facts” problem is to not attack the other person’s logic and facts, but to persuade them that the underlying emotion needs to be changed.

      Here’s a good example how I persuade just about eveybody that I meet that Socialized Healthcare is not a good idea:

      I tell them that, indeed socialised healthcare will be better than what we have. BUT in order to get that small benefit, we have to trade a lot of freedom to get that little bit of benefit. I then go on to remind them of the sacrifices that people have made to ensure that we have our freedoms, and to cast that all aside for slightly better health care is downright petty and small. If people have died on the battlefield to secure our freedom from tyrannical governments, doesn’t it seem shallow to trade government control of our very lives and health for a smaller heath care bill.

      By taking the debate away from the quality of heathcare vs the price – and more of a ballance of freedom and safety and at what point do you trade freedom for safety, then I get a lot of converts because people don’t usually have facts in their heads about freedom/safety but they do have a lot of facts in their heads about healthcare.

  5. September 30, 2008    

    Making Phone Calls

    So I signed up with the McCain campaign, and I just make a few phone calls to pester people into voting for McCain.

    It’s kinda fun! I’ve had some really nice conversations with some Obama supporters, some atta-boys from McCain supporters and a lot of people who don’t speak english.

    I’m not going by the horridly bland script – just trying my best. I think I got a few people to think a bit about freedom vs. security. Getting a answering message is kinda a relief sometimes – especially when I can’t figure out how to pronounce people’s names.

    One thing is for sure – Based on the call lists McCain’s campaign is going after the non-white vote with a vengeance. It’s nice to see.

  6. September 30, 2008    

    Sweet Zombie Jesus!

    Nuke it from orbit! It’s the only way to be sure!

    Reminds me of the singing kindergartners the Chinese would round up for us tourists – extolling the virtues of Chairman Mao and the Benevolent People’s Party Committee on Reform and Justice.

  7. Anonymous Anonymous
    October 1, 2008

    Funny, this came after a Bush presidency as well…

    • Anonymous Anonymous
      October 1, 2008    

      1992 VP Debate

      Wow! Thank you for posting this. Watching it, do you wonder if our politicians just recycle the same stock phrases with each campaign?


      • October 1, 2008    

        Re: 1992 VP Debate

        Fear of the Month Club:

        Reminds me of how those in power use fear to get more power, just in my lifetime we’ve had fear mongers drum up new things to scare us into giving up our money and freedom.

        Nuclear War
        Osama Bin Ladin
        Global Warming
        Global Economy Meltdown

        I really liked Stockdale: I often wonder what we’d be like if Ross Perot, Ralph Nader and Ron Paul won their respective elections. Possibly a much more nobler, if not a little more honorable.

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